1. Lever action
This was the original assault gun. Created at a time when most guns fired a single shot, and many muzzle loaders were still around, the lever action gives a lone individual the capability of firing off as many as a dozen rounds as fast as the lever can be worked. Working the lever and firing fast was nicknamed, a frontier drum roll.
By modern standards, the classic lever action holds up quite well. Compared to the AR-15, the modern copy of the old Winchester is better in almost every way. It is slightly smaller, slightly lighter, fires a more powerful cartridge, and nearly matches the rate of fire.
Disadvantages are that a lever is slower to reload, when reloading becomes necessary, it has a somewhat lower rate of fire (though it still fires pretty quickly), and as a general rule is not as accurate as a good semi-auto, though this is a matter of debate.
Still, the point here is that the classic lever action is plenty good enough, considerably less expensive, and far less likely to be banned, restricted, or require licensing than a modern military style semi-auto.
It's a good thing the lever action is less likely to be banned or restricted post-collapse because you're going to need it when SHTF.
If flying under the radar is a priority for you, it'll be wise to invest in this type of gun or consider another shotgun that's also low profile, such as a highly recommended specialty gun on the next slide after the break.
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Look, fellas. Enough. If you came across one another in a SHTF situation, it would suite you both to get along. Odds are, you won’t, but you might come across someone who disagrees with you, so, fighting like children isn’t going to end well. An AR is not the superior go-to rifle for any-and-all survival situation. It’s simply a well rounded option. Good for a lot, not really specializing in one thing. Like a Leatherman multi-tool. I will NEVER go anywhere with out one of my Rem. 870’s or 1300’s, but let’s be real, a 12 with buck or even a slug won’t be very good when range is a factor. Yet, I have a few things I could unpack, and reach out about 200-400 yards FURTHER than the silly little .223. Talk about range and all, don’t come at me with AR superiority because I wear a round around my neck that I plucked from a target at 900 yards away.. That settles that. So, quit. Both of you have very relevant arguments, and neither of you are wrong. Just being dumb.
Taryn Mason Brown I was arguing that it is more concealable and it had a better effective range. He couldn’t get that and I guess he deleted all his comments.
I also have some high $ long guns that I’m fairly good with…… still, I wouldn’t want to hump them around.
It tends to be a the pattern of people who lost the argument. Delete their words and walk away. You had the rational end, anyway. It would suck to lug around everything like that, but if we have no choice… I usually break down my options into tiers. First, be able to spot a threat from a long way off, and possibly “respond accordingly”. Second is active defense in the general vicinity, then last, when it’s close enough to see the sweat beads on their forehead. Ideally, I’d like to have all three tiers covered at any given time. On at side note.. I trust any man with at 30-30. My pops gave me his when I was about 8 to teach me. Knocked me on my$#%&!@* I fell in love. So, good on you, brother. Stay safe.
Hahahahaha ! Myself included, but I was speaking figuratively long term.
The one you have will do, 100 rounds and a med pistol, and a knife. Learn how to use them.
See, you bring up another point. Distance and training are always going to be your friend. If the goal of ‘grey man’ is to blend in, wouldn’t it be better to not be seen at all? If you have good glass on your rifle you can identify a potential threat from a long way off and circumvent it. With a shotgun you’re not going to do that….. and a distance gap could be closed quickly. I just don’t get it. There seems to be a common trend to recommend inferior weapons for the sake of prepping or survival. I get it if that’s all you can afford, but I refuse to leave a damn fine weapon in the safe and use a relic just for the sake of blending in. IT SEEMS CRAZY TO ME!
Thank you
22lr human deadly and quiet. Easily carry a 1000 rds. Center fire draws attention.
Already have them
Slingshot, cheaper and never run out of ammo.
That one on the top looks like a mosin carbine 38. Good luck finding one of those. Looking for a couple years now.
All of the above
Point to consider caliber you are most likely to resupply with in the field
Suppressed .22 cal
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I’ve hunted with both, I’ll take a shotty, kinda hard to eat a squirrel after hitting it with a .223, and a bit difficult to hit a flying bird.
If fighting is your only concern the AR is probably better. But it loses out on everything else